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NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« on: May 21, 2021, 06:07:19 PM »
https://hardairmagazine.com/news/product-news/new-stoeger-xm1-suppressor-pcp-air-rifle-in-stores/

The New Gun's Imported to USofA are all .22 Only FAC,   ".177 FAC only good for Breaking Sound Barrier 1126 fps".(Ted,s Holdover)....Franky

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2021, 02:26:28 PM »
A quote from the HAM link >>>>

"A sign of the times is that it is available in .22 caliber only. The overall market for .177 caliber PCP air rifles in the US has more-or-less dried up and this is (another) clear recognition of that fact."  ;D ;D ;D

Seriously......does the silencer really need to be that big to be effective.......or is it all just dick swinging......a sort of "mine is bigger than yours" type philosophy?? :o :o

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2021, 11:09:45 PM »
I noticed in Store's in America more .22s Air Gun's, use to be all .177 Springer's in Big Box Store's. ;D ;D ;D.....Franky

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2021, 11:35:59 AM »
Looks like you Yanks are eventually starting to realise the superiority of the .22 airgun then!! 8) 8)

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2021, 05:00:15 AM »
.177 in the State's is rather new w/Cheep Springer's comming around some verrrry bad . Some Verry good like FWB 127 ,Airsporter-S .22 still have FWB 127. Benjamin, Crosman ,Sharp Pump-up's were .22  or  5mm Dan's w/1g/15.3gr stright wall Slug's(they scuk)..... .22 was KING then in USofA & Now,the MIGHTY .22 Lives On w/No Limit on HorsePower Here in all-FAC Ville .....Franky  8)

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2021, 12:10:23 PM »
a fac .22 is as flat as a .177 anyway with more hitting energy lol
airarms, s200/10 .22
airarms, s410 carbine .22
2x hw 77's 1 is biker fudd glided .22
logun s16s .177
rws 27 .22
webley vmx .22

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2021, 10:47:02 PM »
Yup....from experiments a buddy and I did........trajectory and velocity are very closely linked.

A .22 travelling with a muzzle velocity of, say 800fps, had the same trajectory and drop as a .177 going the same speed.

Ditto if the velocities were raised or lowered.......both calibre pellets (of the same brand/type) all landed on the 60 yard target with very similar amounts of drop from a 40 yard zero as long as the starting muzzle velocities were the same.

We even tried it with a .25 and the results were the same with that too.......all calibres had the same trajectory as long as they had the same velocity.

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2021, 08:58:04 PM »
 * Gambo  * (We even tried it with a .25 and the results were the same with that too.......all calibres had the same trajectory as long as they had the same velocity.)
                                          Never Seen that before, are They same Wt. Pellet @ same Speed in each Cal.?
                                             maybe then OK. I gota try that in FAC, need to find same Wt. Pellet's in .177 & .22.....Franky

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Re: NEW Stoeger XM1 suppressor PCP .22 Only
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2021, 08:16:20 PM »
Yes Franky....as long as muzzle velocities were the same then the drop at 60 yards from a 40 yard zero was near identical.

i.e........800fps .177 zeroed at 40 yards compared to an 800fps .22 zeroed at 40 yards.........both had the same drop out at 60 yards.

Hope I've explained that OK!!