FWB 127 is My Favorite Springer of all Time, Quality, Smooth, Accurate, Plenty Power in FAC, Much Lighter than HW 80. 127 Much Loved in the Springer Crowd. Yank's like the HW80 FAC better only for the Big Power. Have Both Guns in .22 FAC and the HW80 stays Home, My FWB 127 Killed way more Gray's,Coon's,Rabbit's,Fox's,Crow's and anything Dumb enough to be Seen by My Iron(Plastic) Site's in the Woods, (HW80 Has Better Real IRON Sites,and Power) Sorry for late Post But I'd had My Say.....Franky