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Mystery problem
« on: August 05, 2016, 04:29:25 PM »
I,m devastated. My little Raptor is refusing to shoot straight. A couple of weeks back I bagged some real long range bunnies and pigeons with it. Then, after it fell off the tri pod and damaged the scope I fitted another scope. I went out yesterday to zero it in my farmers barn. For some reason it no longer shot JSB,s very well. So, I tried some Accupells and did quite well with them , 1/2 inch at 50 yards. happy with that. This morning I cleaned the barrel so,s to lead up the barrel with the Accupells. Shock horror, it won,t group with anything now. I tried four different silencers and also re timed the magazine indexer. Still no good. Even using a single shot tray made no difference. Now i,ve machined up another barrel in the hope I can get her back shooting the way it was. I haven,t tried it yet, i,m too tired. Any ideas folks?

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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 05:36:34 PM »
Lets hope you sorted it mel and it was a bent barrel
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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 06:39:01 PM »
It there a barrel band on those? Might of moved and be slowly settling back,had it on my old ultimate sporter,loosened everything,let it settle overnight on a rest and retightened,if not how did the rifle fall,any damage to the crowning on the barrel?,let us know how you sort it out
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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 06:52:43 PM »
The rifle is one of my homebuilds. It fell off my tri-pod and damaged the scope and stock. The barrel band is a loose fit and doesn,t really do anything. The crown can,t get damaged because there,s a silencer fitted to it. Its a real puzzle as, yesterday it was shooting well, albeit with Accupells and not the normal JSB,s. I,ve fitted another Chinese barrel so i,ll give it a test tomorrow.

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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2016, 11:04:15 AM »
Here's another angle to consider.......


Without being disrespectful, are you sure the problem isn't you?

You know the rifle has been damaged, and now your subconscious could possibly be convinced it still is, even though you have repaired/replaced/reset what was knocked out of kilter.


I've done exactly the same....years ago my Dad knocked over an FX2000 I had ultimate confidence in, it clouted the silencer which disturbed the front barrel support and so lost the zero. I repositioned the barrel support and rezeroed, but it took a VERY long time to satisfy my mind it was shooting as well as it did before. Infact, even now I'm not totally sure that it's as good as it was, as I've never seemed to be able to replicate my previous 'pre-knockover' standards with it...there's no reason why it isn't, but the power of the psyche suggests otherwise. I even gave it to my shooting buddy to test, who got on absolutely fine with it, which proved the 'problem' was with me, and not the rifle.

So maybe your mind is 'expecting' it not to shoot right, and that is effecting your use with it. :-\


Shooting is very much a 'confidence' activity....if you don't have confidence in your equipment, you won't get the results you are looking for because you've already subconsciously convinced yourself that something is substandard.


Just a thought, and no disrespect meant Mel. ;)


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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2016, 08:13:44 PM »
''Shooting is very much a 'confidence' activity....if you don't have confidence in your equipment, you won't get the results you are looking for because you've already subconsciously convinced yourself that something is substandard.''

Gambo,i'd applaud you for those pearls of wisdom, but that would knock you off the applauds count, that daren't speak it's name.  :)
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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2016, 10:04:26 AM »
I can see where you guys are coming from and I fully understand the reasoning behind your logic. In fact, only the other week my pal and I had a zeroing session in which I couldn,t get a group at all with my AA510, no matter how much I tried. My mate had a go with it and produced a cloverleaf at 35 yards with it. It was me, just not in the right frame of mind. However, with this rifle, I checked the barrel and, for some mysterious reason, it does feel as tight as it once was !! So, I machined up another ( Chinese ) barrel and fitted that. Still no joy. I,d run out of barrels so, out of desperation, I fitted the Weihrauch barrel i,d found to be not up to standard a while back. I tried lots of different pellets with no real improvement then, I tested AA field 4.52,s. Four pellets through the same hole at 21yards. This airgunning lark is driving me nuts. Oh, I forgot , I already am.  :( ::) :P

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Re: Mystery problem
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2016, 10:13:02 AM »
Please to hear you're now happy after fitting the Weihrauch barrel.....but it would be nice to get the bottom of the problem...........now there's a challenge, if you choose to accept it? ;)