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Title: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on December 07, 2013, 02:06:55 PM
Hi, anyone puchasing a kalibrgun  from Cyprus , only purchase from  Alexandros
He is the only official importer in Cyprus ( he's listed  on kaliber guns homepage )
Excellent to deal with
You can contact him by the email below .

Oploemboriki a.e.p.
Contact: Alexandros P/Theodotou
oploemboriki@cytanet.com.cy
www.oploemboriki.com
00 357 24 425 500
Oploemboriki a.e.p. ; Karpenisiou 4, 7550 Kiti, Cyprus



There is a trader in Cyprus pretending to be him, so  be careful and only deal with the man above.
I have told him about this matter and he was aware, he said they've copied their details  Alex's  homepage. (Just changed email & address details)

Gambo any chance you could make this a sticky, before someone gets stung.
Thanks   ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: uncle albert on December 07, 2013, 03:26:00 PM
Seconded, because I was nearly suckered in!  ???
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on December 07, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
Many thanks for the heads-up Curly, and yes, this thread has been stickied as I certainly don't want to hear of any Planet Airgun members being conned.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on December 07, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
Nice one matey  ;)

You know where to get yours from now Gambo
Lmao  ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on December 07, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
You know where to get yours from

Yeah.....off you when yours goes up for sale in a fortnight's time. ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: shakeysimon on December 07, 2013, 07:05:13 PM
If there's any issues why not go through the ratworks as they are the official uk importers, they will honour the warranty and sort any issues.i'm prepared to pay extra for piece of mind
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: sme4969 on December 07, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
phil cromton (the rat works) is to do with them aswell

The Rat Works :-

I am very happy to announce that I will be working in partnership with KalibrGun UK covering all warranty work and customisation of the Kalibr rifles imported by them. Every rifle sold by Kalibrgun UK will pass through my workshop and be fully tested for power, consistency and accuracy before going out into the UK market. Each rifle will come with its very own airgun passport signed off by myself, ensuring that every buyer will have a fully reliable, trustworthy, accurate and trouble free rifle before they’ve even got it out of the box. I have been in talks for a while with the company and I am very much looking forward to working alongside them in getting these fantastic little rifles out into the hands of UK airgunners. Many of you know how stringent I am about my rifles, I can guarantee, will not be disappointed.

KalibrGun Cricket RRP Prices

All models are available in .177 and .22, .25 can be made to special order. All models are sub 12 Ft/lbs, FAC level rifles will be available early in the new year.

Carbine Synthetic - £850
Carbine Walnut - £1050

Standard Synthetic - £900
Standard Walnut - £1100

Supplied with:

• 2 14 shot Magazines
• Filling adaptor
• 1 year warranty covering the rifle for a year from the date of purchase.

Stay tuned for some very special deals.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: shakeysimon on December 07, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
Exactly that Sean  :) why not pm phil282 on here as he is the ratworks, I'm sure he'll answer any questions you have
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: phil8282 on December 07, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
 >:( >:( >:( >:(**** WARNING *****  >:( >:( >:( >:(

I am not affiliated in any way with the company above. The company above sends you rifles that are Illegal to own in the UK without modification. Every rifle I have heard about so far from this company, and other "grey" rifles has been FAC power. Unless you want to end up being stung I suggest you wait for KalibrgunUK (the UK division of Kalibrgun Whomb I am working in partnership with) to begin selling rifles in the UK.

They will be available in Jan next year, with FAC ones in Feb we hope, along with the new Colibri Versions, as well as custom stocks, hydrodipping and custom parts.


Phil
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: shakeysimon on December 07, 2013, 09:08:18 PM
Thanks for clarifying Phil  :)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: sme4969 on December 07, 2013, 09:13:36 PM
>:( >:( >:( >:(**** WARNING *****  >:( >:( >:( >:(

I am not affiliated in any way with the company above. The company above sends you rifles that are Illegal to own in the UK without modification. Every rifle I have heard about so far from this company, and other "grey" rifles has been FAC power. Unless you want to end up being stung I suggest you wait for KalibrgunUK (the UK division of Kalibrgun Whomb I am working in partnership with) to begin selling rifles in the UK.

They will be available in Jan next year, with FAC ones in Feb we hope, along with the new Colibri Versions, as well as custom stocks, hydrodipping and custom parts.


Phil
i just posted on your warning thread ;) :) and it does say in my post above the uk side of these guns
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on December 08, 2013, 10:10:28 AM
Official Uk supplier according to kalibrgun themselves,


DISCOVERY GLOBAL LTD
Olena Deorditsa
145-157 ST JOHN STREET
EC1V 4PY
LONDON
ENGLAND
+44 78910 100 22
ltdaddition@gmail.com

Hope this helps  ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on December 08, 2013, 10:44:43 AM
Sorry there was one more official uk importer


UK
Finsdev Limited
dimon@finsdev.com
Finsdev.com
tel.:+44 203 28 789 10
mob.: +44 789 10 100 32
17 Florence House,  Royal Herbert Pavilions, Gilbert Close, London, United Kingdom, SE18 4PP

ATB julio
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: uncle albert on December 08, 2013, 03:00:19 PM
Authorised dealers are all on  Kalibr 's website.
And just to echo what Negotiator said somewhere, all guns are shipped at well below 12ft/lbs.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: phil8282 on December 17, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
Official Uk supplier according to kalibrgun themselves,


DISCOVERY GLOBAL LTD
Olena Deorditsa
145-157 ST JOHN STREET
EC1V 4PY
LONDON
ENGLAND
+44 78910 100 22
ltdaddition@gmail.com

Hope this helps  ;)

Sorry there was one more official uk importer


UK
Finsdev Limited
dimon@finsdev.com
Finsdev.com
tel.:+44 203 28 789 10
mob.: +44 789 10 100 32
17 Florence House,  Royal Herbert Pavilions, Gilbert Close, London, United Kingdom, SE18 4PP

ATB julio

Yes, these are the companies I am affiliated with, not the man in Cyprus...  ;)

Both of the companies quoted now work under DISCOVERY GLOBAL LTD whomb I am partnered with.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gooner shooter on January 12, 2014, 12:33:06 AM
Phil....   Im afraid im confused now..  What in actual fact will be the difference between the Crickets you will be supplying, and all the other Crickets available throughout the rest of Europe for instance..

France and Germany for instance have even more rigid power regulations than us...
My understanding is that guns being imported into the UK are set around the 7lb mark..  So as not to contravene UK laws..
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: phil8282 on January 12, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
Because of the transportation laws in the Czech Republic where the Crickets are now made, they need to be fully power adjustable to be moved in a transportation network. Because of this the crickets are designed to be able to be adjusted easily, and with the action still in the rifles stock.

To get a rifle running well, consistently and accurately, the hammer spring and regulator need to be setup at ‘mid points’ so they run in balance, giving good performance. Now, with you hammer adjustment running at around half capacity, giving you a steady 11.5 ft/lbs for instance. If the police were to seize your gun, and then increase the power, which they have every right to do with the action still in the stock, then I can guarantee you will be found to have been in possession of a section 1 firearm. 

To put it simply, the ones supplied by KalibrGun UK will be completely LEGAL to own in the UK with no ‘grey’ risky areas that should not be exploited, not only for your potential prison sentence, but also for the future of the our shooting sport. Our restrictions are hard enough, without people pushing the limits and causing further restrictions or bans which will cause problems for other UK shooters. I don’t want to see Airguns banned in the UK because some idiot gets arrested in a public place with a Section 1 firearm and the media having a frenzy calling for all airguns to be banned. Do you? The government always buckles to media pressure.

My involvement with the UK importer is to not only ensure the rifles are perfectly legal and safe to use for members of the UK public, but also ensure they can be used to their full potential. After all, I wouldn’t be involved if I didn’t think they were worth it.

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there. I’ve had my 2 test models outperforming a Steyr and a Daystate at 65 yards, and that was only 1 magazine after I’d zeroed it, with no leading in, or pellet research to find the one the barrel likes. Outperforming a £2,500 Steyr after 15 minutes on the range? I’d say these rifles deserve and extra touch of due care and attention to get them at their best, wouldn’t you?
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Shortenhauzen on January 12, 2014, 04:41:12 PM
Great Post Phil Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on January 13, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
Quote

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there.



I doubt that very much  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: phil8282 on January 13, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: dezyboy on January 26, 2014, 05:05:01 PM
Quote

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there.



I doubt that very much  ;D ;D

O.K so please tell what makes you the expert ?  You obviously have a vast engineering knowledge and will give us some information based on fact ?

or are you turning into a troll ?   Phil is a member of this forum as much as you are mate.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on January 26, 2014, 07:32:20 PM
As is normal on Planet Airgun, EVERYONE is very welcome to to have an equal say on this forum, whatever side of the fence they sit on.

I welcome views/opinions/comments from ALL angles, so please feel free to have your say, whom ever you are, just so long as things stay respectful, and not personally abusive, your input is very much valued.

Thank You.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 04, 2014, 12:44:28 AM
A very informative website

http://www.kalibrgun.co.uk/

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 04, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
Quote

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there.



I doubt that very much  ;D ;D

O.K so please tell what makes you the expert ?  You obviously have a vast engineering knowledge and will give us some information based on fact ?

or are you turning into a troll ?   Phil is a member of this forum as much as you are mate.

Dezyboy, yes I am a time served cnc engineer
And I do know what I'm talking about.
Kalibrgun set the guns up perfect,
And the guy who designed the reg on the cricket
Is a genius.
They are the only gun manufacturers to have
Eliminated the sweet spot.

As for the  ratworks saying their crickets
Are better than any other crickets out there
Is  the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

He's too quick to slag off other sources,
It's very unprofessional .

I have 2 crickets and  both shoot fantastic
And are as consistent as you could possibly
Get.
They're from Cyprus btw

.25 cal -  60 ft/lbs with no more than 1-2 ft/s variation
from 250 bar to 100bar
So as I said

"I doubt that very much"
 ;)
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: dezyboy on February 05, 2014, 12:45:00 AM


Dezyboy, yes I am a time served cnc engineer
And I do know what I'm talking about.

Fare enough

Kalibrgun set the guns up perfect,

Not so with the trigger I hear , but that's just going by google and the fact it already has a trigger mod recommended by owners

And the guy who designed the reg on the cricket
Is a genius.

Fare enough

They are the only gun manufacturers to have
Eliminated the sweet spot.

Sorry but .. can you explain that, because every regulated rifle I have ever shot didn't have a sweet spot.. except a badly setup R10

As for the  ratworks saying their crickets
Are better than any other crickets out there
Is  the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

And you base this from a side by side comparison ? or are you talking without any first hand knowledge of the ratworks cricket ?

He's too quick to slag off other sources,
It's very unprofessional .

Pot ... Kettle... Black ?

I have 2 crickets and  both shoot fantastic
And are as consistent as you could possibly
Get.
They're from Cyprus btw

 Not heard anything bad about them, only that the trigger is o.k but easily made better (I don't own one so that's just hearsay)

.25 cal -  60 ft/lbs with no more than 1-2 ft/s variation
from 250 bar to 100bar
So as I said

"I doubt that very much"
 ;)


Nothing against you, I just don't see why you are so dead against the ratworks when the only negative things I can find on the net are from other people who have no first hand experience of the ratwork's cricket.

Unless you can point me to someone who has ..
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 05, 2014, 06:14:35 AM
Dezyboy, the reason because people are against the ratworks were his immature comments he made
In regards to buying from Cyprus. (This thread )

I only put the sticky up there to inform you guys if you were buying from Cyprus , to buy from the official source, as couple of members nearly paid funds to a grey importer.
It was not to tell everyone to buy from Cyprus.

I bought mine from the official source direct from Cyprus which  will have a full EU guarantee , not a grey import as phil (ratworks) has said.
No I've not tried the ratworks cricket and no one else have because he still haven't sold any yet.
And yes I will buy from Cyprus again also, because he's a good dealer.

As for trigger mods
The triggers are fantastic , neither of mine have needed any adjustment (see gambo's review)
Some people have put an O ring on the second stage adjustment screw which is only needed if you've
Wound it out excessively, and the tension on the 2nd stage adjustment screw is very very light.
(Just stops it winding out any more)


As for uk  legal guns , adjusting the reg down a bit and fitting anti tamper is not tuning in my eyes,
The real genius behind these  rifles is from Russia not England  ;)
I got a diving cylinder and a reg tester  and a Dremel but I don't consider my self a tuner.
The crickets are superb anyway straight from manufacturer and don't require tuning

Uk importer
So I got no problem with a kalibrgun dealer in uk, some people would prefer to buy from a local dealer,

I'm surprised ASI haven't gone for it as they did with the fx range ;)

But for me , this time Cyprus was a much better solution and I saved a lot of money  ;)
Plus I got  one within a month.
Not sure if that would be the case now as there are long waiting lists and kalibrgun can't produce
The rifles quick enough.

So when phil got on his high horse about buying from abroad, I think he annoyed a lot of people.

ATB Julio  ;D ;)




Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: dezyboy on February 05, 2014, 07:42:52 PM
Dezyboy, the reason because people are against the ratworks were his immature comments he made
In regards to buying from Cyprus. (This thread )

I only put the sticky up there to inform you guys if you were buying from Cyprus , to buy from the official source, as couple of members nearly paid funds to a grey importer.
It was not to tell everyone to buy from Cyprus.

I bought mine from the official source direct from Cyprus which  will have a full EU guarantee , not a grey import as phil (ratworks) has said.
No I've not tried the ratworks cricket and no one else have because he still haven't sold any yet.
And yes I will buy from Cyprus again also, because he's a good dealer.

As for trigger mods
The triggers are fantastic , neither of mine have needed any adjustment (see gambo's review)
Some people have put an O ring on the second stage adjustment screw which is only needed if you've
Wound it out excessively, and the tension on the 2nd stage adjustment screw is very very light.
(Just stops it winding out any more)


As for uk  legal guns , adjusting the reg down a bit and fitting anti tamper is not tuning in my eyes,
The real genius behind these  rifles is from Russia not England  ;)
I got a diving cylinder and a reg tester  and a Dremel but I don't consider my self a tuner.
The crickets are superb anyway straight from manufacturer and don't require tuning

Uk importer
So I got no problem with a kalibrgun dealer in uk, some people would prefer to buy from a local dealer,

I'm surprised ASI haven't gone for it as they did with the fx range ;)

But for me , this time Cyprus was a much better solution and I saved a lot of money  ;)
Plus I got  one within a month.
Not sure if that would be the case now as there are long waiting lists and kalibrgun can't produce
The rifles quick enough.

So when phil got on his high horse about buying from abroad, I think he annoyed a lot of people.

ATB Julio  ;D ;)

Right I see from the above I have misjudged you...  :-[   

That is a very reasoned arguement. 
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: sme4969 on February 05, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
Quote

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there.



I doubt that very much  ;D ;D

O.K so please tell what makes you the expert ?  You obviously have a vast engineering knowledge and will give us some information based on fact ?

or are you turning into a troll ?   Phil is a member of this forum as much as you are mate.

Dezyboy, yes I am a time served cnc engineer
And I do know what I'm talking about.
Kalibrgun set the guns up perfect,
And the guy who designed the reg on the cricket
Is a genius.
They are the only gun manufacturers to have
Eliminated the sweet spot.

As for the  ratworks saying their crickets
Are better than any other crickets out there
Is  the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

He's too quick to slag off other sources,
It's very unprofessional .

I have 2 crickets and  both shoot fantastic
And are as consistent as you could possibly
Get.
They're from Cyprus btw

.25 cal -  60 ft/lbs with no more than 1-2 ft/s variation
from 250 bar to 100bar
So as I said

"I doubt that very much"
 ;)
but you state yours are fac phils are going to be sub 12
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 05, 2014, 10:57:02 PM

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Right I see from the above I have misjudged you...  :-[   

That is a very reasoned arguement. 
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Dezyboy, no worries  at all
It's just about getting what you want and when you want it  lol
 I'm impatient  and hate waiting  for  things  otherwise the money will burn a hole in my pocket  ;D
I got a mate who travels abroad quite often and  I might just
Get him to bring me an fx monsoon back  ;)
I better start saving
ATB julio
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 05, 2014, 11:05:13 PM
Quote

Furthermore, my involvement has seen several little improvements develop which I will be hoping to incorporate into the UK spec models, to make shooting them even better than the other cricket models out there.



I doubt that very much  ;D ;D

O.K so please tell what makes you the expert ?  You obviously have a vast engineering knowledge and will give us some information based on fact ?

or are you turning into a troll ?   Phil is a member of this forum as much as you are mate.

Dezyboy, yes I am a time served cnc engineer
And I do know what I'm talking about.
Kalibrgun set the guns up perfect,
And the guy who designed the reg on the cricket
Is a genius.
They are the only gun manufacturers to have
Eliminated the sweet spot.

As for the  ratworks saying their crickets
Are better than any other crickets out there
Is  the biggest load of crap I've ever heard.

He's too quick to slag off other sources,
It's very unprofessional .

I have 2 crickets and  both shoot fantastic
And are as consistent as you could possibly
Get.
They're from Cyprus btw

.25 cal -  60 ft/lbs with no more than 1-2 ft/s variation
from 250 bar to 100bar
So as I said

"I doubt that very much"
 ;)
but you state yours are fac phils are going to be sub 12

Sme, my .25 is fac  but my .22 is sub 12 but that don't matter as they're easily set whichever
Route you need to go, and shoot fantastic  either way.
The accuracy is  amazing also
I'm gonna pop up gambo's later this week with the .25
So I'm sure he'll do some sort of review , he done a good one of the .22
ATB Julio
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: uncle albert on February 10, 2014, 05:21:51 AM
I am one satisfied customer from purchasing from Alex through Cyprus..............................well apart from the fact I have not touched it yet.  Highly recommended guy to deal with.

Think it is possible Negotiator might look like a troll, but he is not a forum troll.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on February 10, 2014, 09:22:35 AM
Negotiator might look like a troll

Actually he looks like a very well known Ogre.........Shrek!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 10, 2014, 05:33:03 PM
Actually he looks like a very well known Ogre.........Shrek!!! ;D ;D


     Bitch  :o ;D



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Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on February 10, 2014, 06:15:55 PM
I notice you didn't deny it though!!!! ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: uncle albert on February 11, 2014, 03:31:52 PM
I used to work with a guy from darkest Shetland who looked just like the Gruffalo......................think he had Welsh relatives near Cardiff.
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 11, 2014, 09:26:06 PM
I was once told that Gambo & I could pass
For brothers,
Obviously I'm the good looking  much younger baby brother
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Gambo on February 11, 2014, 10:48:02 PM
Actually, you were told that Gambo could pass you.......on the outside with his knee on the deck!!! :P
Title: Re: Kalibrgun crickets Cyprus please read before buying
Post by: Negotiator on February 12, 2014, 12:26:29 AM
Actually, you were told that Gambo could pass you.......on the outside with his knee on the deck!!! :P

Lol, I like that  ;D ;D